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CANADIAN REAL ESTATE MARKET UPDATE |
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7:00 am |
Registration and
Continental Breakfast
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7:30 am |
Introduction |
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Stefan Ciotlos, President & CEO, CB Richard Ellis Limited |
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The Outlook for the Economy for 2010 and
Beyond
An
insightful examination of key trends in the North American economy with
a specific view towards their future direction over the short and medium
terms, including the outlook for the Canadian and U.S. dollars, interest
rates, inflation, and GDP growth. How will the U.S. economy perform in
2010? When will the real recovery begin? What will be the implications
of the U.S. economy on the outlook for Canada?
Dr. Warren Jestin, Senior Vice President & Chief
Economist, Scotiabank

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The Canadian And U.S. Political Outlook:
Now What?
A discussion
on how the national political landscapes are evolving in both Canada and
the United States. What have been the results of the first year of the Obama administration? What does the future hold for the Conservatives
and Liberals in Canada? How are the policies of the U.S. and Canadian
governments affecting the economy?
Andrew Coyne, National Editor, Maclean’s |
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The Outlook For Commercial Real Estate And Deal
Flow
Across Canada
An overview of
key commercial real estate leasing and investment trends across Canada
in the office, industrial, retail, and multi-residential sectors. How
did they perform in 2009? What is the outlook for 2010? What have been
the most significant implications of the credit market conditions on cap
rates and transaction activity? How will the leasing markets perform
going forward?
John O’Bryan, Vice Chairman, CB Richard Ellis Limited |
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9:00 am |
Canadian Real Estate Market Update
Concludes |
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9:30 am |
Asset Allocation And Capital Development
In 2010: What Is The View Of Capital Markets? Institutional Investors
And Financial Services?

A wide ranging panel discussion that will examine the
strategic deployment of capital and asset allocation from the
perspective of banks, life insurers, pension funds, capital markets, and
financial services corporations. The participants will offer their views
from these different points on the compass as they comment on what they
see is currently happening; what they foresee in 2010 and beyond; what
risks and opportunities they feel are emerging at this time; what the
market fallout has meant in strategic terms for their organizations; in
what markets and in what form do they favour deploying their capital;
and where the Canadian and global real estate asset class fits relative
to all their other investment opportunities for the year ahead.
Moderator:
Stephen Sender, Managing Director & Industry Head,
Scotia Capital
Inc.
Mario Barrafato,
Senior Vice President & CFO, Dundee REIT
Panel:
Michael Latimer, Executive Vice President & CIO, OMERS
Hugh Macdonnell, Managing Director, Morgan Stanley
Sandy McIntyre, Senior Vice President & CIO,
Sentry Select Capital Inc.
Brian Porter, Group Head, Risk & Treasury, Scotiabank |
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Morning Refreshments
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Concurrent Sessions (Select
A1,
A2 or
A3) |
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Session A1
Tier One Lenders' Roundtable: The
Market For Medium and Larger Loans And Major Centres
A wide-ranging panel discussion that will examine the
underwriting practices and activities of tier one lenders and the major
sources of debt capital in the Canadian market at this time.
This session will
focus specifically on what borrowers can expect in 2010 in major markets
across Canada.
Some of the questions that will be examined:
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How much money is available for commercial mortgages in 2010 compared
to the past few years and from what sources?
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Who will be the major providers of debt in Canada and what will they
be looking for?
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How will the strategies of banks, insurance companies, pension funds
and other institutions vary from those of private sources of debt
capital?
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How do foreign lenders view the Canadian market?
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How are lenders evaluating a deal in today’s market? How is risk
being priced now? What is happening with loan spreads, amortization
periods, loan to value ratios, and recourse?
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What property classes are lenders avoiding, reducing exposure to, or
increasing pricing for?
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Is “relationship” borrowing still a key element of the lending
environment among the tier one sources?
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How much debt syndication is occurring in the market?
Will the CMBS
market ever return?
Moderator:
Mario Barrafato,
Senior Vice President & CFO, Dundee REIT
Panel:
Paul Chin,
Vice President,
Real Estate Debt,
Otéra Capital
Carmin Di
Fiore, Senior Vice President, Real Estate Banking,
Bank of America Merrill Lynch
Ron Findley, Assistant
Vice President & Regional Director,
Toronto Mortgage Investments
The Great-West Life Assurance Company
Andrew Phillips, Managing Director and
Team Head,
Real Estate Group, TD Securities Inc.
Moray Tawse,
Vice President, Investments, First National Financial LP |
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Session A2 |
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Global Capital Flows: How Much Liquidity
Is Returning To The International Markets? What Will Be The Trends In
2010?

The last
twelve months have seen a major swing in global capital flows, from the
stagnant market of Q4 2008 to vibrant public capital raising and
recapitalizations and the emergence of new forms of private capital
during 2009. What lies ahead?
- What are you
seeing now in the capital and financial markets outside of Canada?
- What will become
of all the fresh capital? Will defensive positions change into
offensive strategies?
- Will new capital
once again drive cap rate compression? If so, is it deserved?
- Distressed
sellers – does anyone know where are they hiding?
- Who will now be
the players – old versus new? Where are they going to focus, how are
they going to raise their financing, and what will be the structural
form of their investments?
- How are these
trends affecting the Canadian market?
What is
happening abroad that may come to Canada?
- What kind of
underwriting could Canadian real estate owners expect to see from
foreign sources entering our market
Moderator:
Peter
Senst, Executive Vice President & Director, CB Richard Ellis Limited
Panel:
George Ahl, Principal, M3 Capital Partners
Peter Cuthbert, Vice President,
Standard Life
Investments (Real Estate) Inc.
Bill Jandrisits, Director, Finance, Starwood Capital Group
Robert Weaver, Managing Director, Morgan Stanley
To request a copy of
the presentation for this session, please
click here.
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Session A3 |
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How Are REITs And REOCs Performing In
This Market? What Are Investor's Expectations Going Forward: Safety Or
Growth?
Most
Canadian REITs and REOCs are well capitalized, have balanced debt
maturity profiles, and generally have high-quality assets, which are
easier to refinance. Over the past decade, our REITs posted a very
healthy compounded annual return (including distributions) of
14.1%. But consider the
rollercoaster ride that they have experienced in the past three years.
Following the significant turbulence of 2008 that peaked in early 2009,
they have raised billions of dollars for their war chests in the past
nine months and their unit values have roared back. Is this performance
sustainable, is now the question among investors and REIT management.
Has the market
discounted the future? What returns are unit holders, portfolio managers
and analysts expecting? A few years ago, strong growth potential was a
key criteria in selecting REITs. Then the criteria became safety in
recent years. Who will be rewarded now going forward, e.g. those REITs
and REOCs that are considered safe or those who are have strong growth
prospects?
Moderator:
Craig Shannon, Managing Director,
Head of Real Estate and Hospitality Group,
National Bank Financial

Panel:
Pammi Bir, Associate Director, Real Estate and REITs Analyst,
Scotia Capital Inc.
Kevin Hall, Senior Portfolio Manager, Guardian Capital LP
Dennis Mitchell, Vice President & Senior Portfolio Manager,
Sentry Select Capital Inc.
Mark Rothschild, Principal and Real Estate Analyst,
Genuity Capital Markets |
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11:50 am |
Concurrent Sessions (Select
B1,
B2 or
B3) |
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Session B1 |
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What Are Pension Funds And Other
Institutional Investors Focused On In 2010?

This session will examine the strategic
appetite of pension funds, life companies and other institutional
investors for real estate in 2010.
- Given the upsurge in public equity markets since
last March, what have the implications been for the asset allocation
strategies of pension funds and institutional investors?
- Has the denominator factor changed again? Are funds
and life companies underweighted in real estate? Or have strategic
decisions been made to increase the size of the real estate slice of
the overall pie?
- Will some of the larger Canadian funds be net
sellers domestically while they continue to diversify internationally?
What is their diversification model?
- What will smaller funds and other institutional
investors likely to be doing?
Moderator:
John O’Bryan, Vice Chairman, CB Richard Ellis Limited
Panel:
Peter Ballon, Director, Real Estate Investments, CPPIB
Frank Camenzuli, President and Founder, Agellan Capital Partners
Michael Dal Bello, Senior Vice President, Real Estate,
Alberta Investment Management Company
Louie DiNunzio, Senior Vice President, Investments,
The Cadillac Fairview Corporation Limited |
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Session B2 |
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What is The Outlook For Smaller Loans,
Secondary Markets And Tier Two Assets?

A major part of the Canadian market consists
of properties that have financing needs in the range of $10 to $20
million or less. In some instances, these are assets that are found in
secondary markets while in other cases, they represent B or C class
buildings in larger centres. This session will examine these
opportunities in greater detail. Among the questions that will be
examined:
- Who is lending at these levels, at what rates, with
kind of underwriting criteria, and to whom?
- How is risk being priced for these smaller loans?
What is happening with loan spreads, amortization periods, loan to
value ratios, and recourse?
- Are smaller communities and other geographic areas
a tougher sell in 2010 or are they being well served?
- What is the market for B and C class properties
that are out of favour with major lenders?
- Does anyone have an interest in underperforming
assets?
Moderator:
Robert Goodall, President & CEO,
Canadian Mortgage Capital Corporation
Panel:
Barry Fenton, Senior Projects Advisor, Central 1 Credit Union
Jeff Lastiwka, President & CEO, JayCap Financial Ltd.
Rory Roberts, Chairman & CEO, INTECH Risk Management Inc.
Chris Sharp, Managing
Director, Penmor Mortgage Capital Corporation

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Session B3 |
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Valuation - What Is It In Today's Market?
What Impact Do Different Perspectives Have On Establishing Asset Values?
Asset
valuation is considerably more difficult for all investors, owners,
potential buyers and all other practitioners in the current
market. Clients are demanding and need more information and support for
their real estate investment decision-making. The significant drop in
transactions and deal flow in 2009 created added pressure for all
parties to understand what truly is the market value at this particular
point in time for any given asset – essential data for buyers, sellers,
lenders, and investors. This session will examine the valuation issue
and provide some insights on determining values in the current market
and the year ahead. The many questions that will be examined
include: what is valuation from a technical capital markets perspective;
what information do various interests require from a valuation including
management, purchasers, vendors, shareholders, auditors, lenders, etc;
how does one determine value in today's market; what are the most
significant differences by geography & asset class; where is valuation
heading going forward, eg. GAAP vs IFRS; and what else does a buyer,
investor or seller need to understand.
Moderator:
Sheila Botting, Senior Managing Director, Capital Markets Canada,
Cushman & Wakefield Ltd.
Panel:
Phil Gillin, Senior Managing Director and Head of Canadian Real
Estate, Sun Life Assurance Company of Canada
Colin Johnston, Executive Vice President, Research,
Valuation & Advisory, Altus Group

Catherine Marshall, Research and Investment Strategy Consultant,
IGRI Inc.

Michael Smith, Managing Director, Real Estate,
Macquarie Research, Equities,
Macquarie Securities Group

Brady Welch, Partner, Slate Properties Inc. |
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12:45 pm |
Networking Lunch

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Luncheon Refreshments
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Afternoon
Refreshments
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2:00 pm |
Concurrent Sessions (Select
C1,
C2 or
C3) |
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Session C1 |
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The CFO Perspective:
Is The Debt Supply-Demand Mismatch Still Significant? What Are Your
Major Issues As Borrowers in This Market
This panel will look at the trends and issues
related to raising debt, credit and capital from the borrowers’
perspectives. Among the questions that will be addressed:
- Has it become easier to access the capital that you
require in today’s market than a year ago? If so, then what have been
the most significant changes?
- How much debt are you carrying, when does it roll
over, and how will you likely refinance?
- What are the most key sources of capital that you
are tapping? What are the most significant weaknesses that you see in
today’s credit market?
- Do you have any challenges with how underwriting is
being done in today’s market and how lenders are pricing or trying to
transfer risk? Do you sense that these are transitional measures or
more structural?
- What about new acquisitions and development? How
are they being financed?
- To what extent have cap rates moved up? Who has the
lowest cost of capital now? Can public real estate entities compete?
Moderator:
David Dulberg, Managing Director,
RBC Capital Markets Real Estate Group

Panel:
Larry Froom, CFO, H&R
REIT
Bart Munn, CFO, Calloway REIT
Richard Smith, CFO, CAP REIT

Karen Weaver, CFO, First Capital Realty Inc. |
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Distressed Debt, Mezzanine Financing And
Opportunity Funds: How Active Is This Part Of The Market?

As the credit crunch evolved over the past few
years, some investors had great anticipation that the universe for
distressed debt purchases would grow considerably creating a wide range
of buying opportunities for those with capital on hand. But to what
extent has this happened in Canada?
This session will focus the experience several opportunity funds and
mezzanine lenders in this market. Distress aside, what other financing
opportunities are there for participating in undervalued or overvalued
real estate assets and portfolios? Is the opportunity fund arena
continuing to evolve, with respective underwriting criteria and risk
tolerance further differentiating one fund from another? Are opportunity
funds currently flush with cash? What are their underlying strategies
with respect to risk/reward/return for the deployment of these funds?
What are the major differences between what they were doing prior to mid
2007 and now? What will be their priorities for 2010 by product type and
market across Canada? What is the market for mezzanine financing and who
is filling this strategic gap? How is this type of financing being
priced in 2010? What are their exit strategies?
Moderator:
Reiner Plessl, Director, RBC Capital
Markets Real Estate Group

Panel:
Michael Carragher, Vice President, Mortgage Investments,
Firm Capital Corporation
Scott Coates, Managing Director, Mortgage Investments, KingSett
Capital
Jake Herman, President, Woodbourne Canada Management Inc.
Don Mathew, Executive Vice President & CIO, IGRI Inc. |
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Session C3 |
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Growth Through Acquisitions: When Does
The Buying Begin? What Are The Opportunities, Risks And Returns Going
Forward?

An insightful discussion about investment
activity in today’s market environment. With many organizations’
acquisition war chests filled with cash, when will more significant deal
transaction and liquidity return to the market? The panel will address a
range of questions including: What have been the major challenges in
order to buy or sell assets in this market? What are the differences, if
any, between the issues faced by a REIT vs. a pension funds vs. a
private equity fund vs. a foreign investor in selling or acquiring
properties at this time? What information do you need in order to try to
do a deal in this market? Is leverage a possibility to any degree? What
are the conditions that are required for a significant return to deal
flow? How close are we to that point in time? Where do you project cap
rates will be by the end of 2010 relative to today’s prices? Who will be
the most active buyers? Who do you anticipate will be the likely
sellers? Which product types will be most favoured by you? Which markets
will be “top of mind”, and why? Will there be any distress likely in
Canada next year or not?
Moderator:
Trevor Blakely, Managing Director,
BMO Capital Markets Real Estate Group
Panel:
Peter Aghar, former President & CIO, KingSett Capital
Ugo Bizzarri, CFO and Vice President, Acquisitions,
Timbercreek Asset Management Inc
John McKinlay, Senior Vice President, Acquisitions, Bentall LP
Adam Paul, Vice President, Investments, CREIT |
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Closing Roundtable Discussion:
CEOs Have The Last Word On Capital Requirements, Liquidity And
Deal Flow
In 2010

A discussion with senior real estate and institutional executives on
their perspective of Canadian real estate fundamentals, trends,
opportunities and strategies for 2010; a comparative of the Canadian
market with U.S. and global conditions; their insights the extent of the
liquidity problem and its continuation over the next twelve months; and
their strategies going forward.
- How much deal flow can be expected in the Canadian
market in 2010?
- What impact will the credit markets have on cap
rates and real estate values across Canada for the next twelve months?
- What are you seeing in capital, financial and real
estate markets outside of Canada? Will any of these trends be
prevalent in Canada as well?
- What investment opportunities have emerged in the
market due to the lending environment of the past two years? Are real
estate fundamentals in Canada weakening or not? If so, where? How bad
is it?
- What kinds of transactions will offer the best
possible returns in 2010? Do you anticipate any increase in buying
opportunities for your organization?
- What do you anticipate will happen with the credit
and capital markets over the next twelve months? What will be the key
determinants of such a change?
- What, if anything, are you doing differently now as
a result of these factors?
- Who has the lowest cost of capital now? Who will be
the most significant winners and who will be the losers in the market
in 2010?
Moderators:
Stephen Sender, Managing Director, Industry Head, Scotia
Capital Inc.
Michael Brooks, CEO, Real Property Association of Canada
Panel:
Michael Cooper, Vice Chairman & CEO, Dundee REIT
Michael Emory, President & CEO, Allied Properties REIT
Amy Erixon, CEO, IGRI Inc.
Blake Hutcheson, President & CEO, Oxford Properties Group Inc.
Dori Segal, President & CEO, First Capital Realty Inc. |
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4:00 pm |
Networking Reception
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